jshepherd
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You can always just post a link to the photos.
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You can always just post a link to the photos.
jshepherd
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By this I meant 100% (save a small pocket in the center, possibly).
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The first photo had a perfect FW dye job and seemed to have irregularities in the shapes, off-rounds? I wondered, but the light crescents outlining the left side esp, have irregularities that reflect the shape of the pearls.
In the second picture, the off round shapes abound. Those are CFWP. You can't just come over here and say they are Tahitians without some proof. No GIA certifier ever saw those pearls and the GIA certified appraiser was no specialist in pearls.
You did not buy them from the farm. Before you just get mad, chaeck out the forum. We have a Tahitian pearl farmer. Look at his pearls if you want to see Tahitians.
The people you bought those from obviously meant "Tahitian Color" If you do a little research over here, you will find that is scam number one-- to sell CFWP as Tahitians.
I still didn't see the pix of the farms?
In the second picture, the off round shapes abound. Those are CFWP. You can't just come over here and say they are Tahitians without some proof. No GIA certifier ever saw those pearls and the GIA certified appraiser was no specialist in pearls.
You did not buy them from the farm. Before you just get mad, chaeck out the forum. We have a Tahitian pearl farmer. Look at his pearls if you want to see Tahitians.
The people you bought those from obviously meant "Tahitian Color" If you do a little research over here, you will find that is scam number one-- to sell CFWP as Tahitians.
I still didn't see the pix of the farms?
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Okay, I hate to pile on here, but GIA does not "certify" appraisers. Your appraiser probably has some GIA education, preferably a Graduate Gemologist Diploma, but they are not allowed to say they are "GIA Certified".
Very few appraisers have enough experience with pearls to give an accurate evaluation, so it is much better to send the strand in to GIA to have the strand evaluated with a Pearl Identification Report or the complete Pearl Classification Report. GIA issues reports, which are opinions, as opposed to certificates, which imply that the lab is "certifying" the object.
That said, you are very welcome here if you can keep an open mind. No one wants to attack anyone unfairly. You may well have been mislead about the pearls you purchased and that is good information to have. It would be a sad thing to ruin your reputation over a strand of pearls.
Let me add a note: I just read the rest of your posts. Now I can see why you are being treated as an aggressive salesperson. You may think you are being subtle, but you are not. Pushing your product, particularly when it's questionable can get you kicked off the forum. That would be a sad thing.
Best of luck to you.
Very few appraisers have enough experience with pearls to give an accurate evaluation, so it is much better to send the strand in to GIA to have the strand evaluated with a Pearl Identification Report or the complete Pearl Classification Report. GIA issues reports, which are opinions, as opposed to certificates, which imply that the lab is "certifying" the object.
That said, you are very welcome here if you can keep an open mind. No one wants to attack anyone unfairly. You may well have been mislead about the pearls you purchased and that is good information to have. It would be a sad thing to ruin your reputation over a strand of pearls.
Let me add a note: I just read the rest of your posts. Now I can see why you are being treated as an aggressive salesperson. You may think you are being subtle, but you are not. Pushing your product, particularly when it's questionable can get you kicked off the forum. That would be a sad thing.
Best of luck to you.
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I am agreeing - freshwater. They look like some I have too.
Nice big pearls though, great fw colours and shape and they do indeed look huge.
I never met a big pearl I didn't really like!
It is a nice necklace, but it isn't any Tahitian I have ever handled.
Nice big pearls though, great fw colours and shape and they do indeed look huge.
I never met a big pearl I didn't really like!
It is a nice necklace, but it isn't any Tahitian I have ever handled.
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Okay, I hate to pile on here, but GIA does not "certify" appraisers. Your appraiser probably has some GIA education, preferably a Graduate Gemologist Diploma, but they are not allowed to say they are "GIA Certified".
Very few appraisers have enough experience with pearls to give an accurate evaluation, so it is much better to send the strand in to GIA to have the strand evaluated with a Pearl Identification Report or the complete Pearl Classification Report. GIA issues reports, which are opinions, as opposed to certificates, which imply that the lab is "certifying" the object.
That said, you are very welcome here if you can keep an open mind. No one wants to attack anyone unfairly. You may well have been mislead about the pearls you purchased and that is good information to have. It would be a sad thing to ruin your reputation over a strand of pearls.
Let me add a note: I just read the rest of your posts. Now I can see why you are being treated as an aggressive salesperson. You may think you are being subtle, but you are not. Pushing your product, particularly when it's questionable can get you kicked off the forum. That would be a sad thing.
Best of luck to you.
Again, sorry for the misunderstanding, i said appraised by GIA... I should have put it in much better words... the appraiser is a graduate gemologist (G.I.A.), certified appraiser. I am horrible at wording things an i apologize for all the inconvenience. Thank you
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1) A "cert" would imply that laboratory testing took place and a laboratory report was issued. Appraisers have equipment, but not the kind a lab would use to determine pearl origin.
2) Again, GIA does not "certify" appraisers. Appraisers are not allowed to call themselves GIA certified.
3) Someone can be a qualified appraiser, even a great one in most areas, but know very little about pearls. Your appraiser doesn't know that they have made an error. That is what happens when someone gives appraisals outside their area of expertise.
Again, GIA does not certify appraisers. Having a GG does not qualify you as an appraiser. There are appraisal organizations, such as NAJA & ASA that certify members to appraise gems and jewelry, but part of that training is knowing when you are not qualified and should refer an item to someone who is.
I hope this explanation helps.
2) Again, GIA does not "certify" appraisers. Appraisers are not allowed to call themselves GIA certified.
3) Someone can be a qualified appraiser, even a great one in most areas, but know very little about pearls. Your appraiser doesn't know that they have made an error. That is what happens when someone gives appraisals outside their area of expertise.
Again, GIA does not certify appraisers. Having a GG does not qualify you as an appraiser. There are appraisal organizations, such as NAJA & ASA that certify members to appraise gems and jewelry, but part of that training is knowing when you are not qualified and should refer an item to someone who is.
I hope this explanation helps.
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I heard that there is a very large loose pearl auction in Hong Kong in September. I do not know who is holding the auction and how to get on the invite list just yet. I am waiting for further details from my associate in Japan.
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Poor Owen, his thread has been hijacked by someone trying to pass a freshwater pearls necklace for a Tahitian.
Could that auction be by UTPPA? They did one auction there just after the fair, and another one early this year. http://tahitipearlproducers.com/
Sharon, if the others didn't make it clear enough: your pearls are freshwater, there is no doubt about it. Your cert is a fake.
Could that auction be by UTPPA? They did one auction there just after the fair, and another one early this year. http://tahitipearlproducers.com/
Sharon, if the others didn't make it clear enough: your pearls are freshwater, there is no doubt about it. Your cert is a fake.
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