Need help with this pearl necklace

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Hello! I intend to purchase my first pearl necklace and came across a seller. The seller shared the necklace and certification with me but interestingly, the person asked me to offer instead.

Any idea if the necklace quality is decent and roughly how much will it costs?

Thanks in advance
 

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Hello! I intend to purchase my first pearl necklace and came across a seller. The seller shared the necklace and certification with me but interestingly, the person asked me to offer instead.

Any idea if the necklace quality is decent and roughly how much will it costs?

Thanks in advance
This one is a question for Jeremy!
 
I’m not sure if this helps. I manage to get more photo from the seller. I noticed the pearls looks pretty uneven.
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It's a fake. Don't waste your time with this and stay away from the seller. They are trying to rip you off.

This is a strand of cheap freshwater. The certificate states that it is an Akoya strand with blue bodycolor.

If you really like the necklace, offer the seller $15.
 
I've heard there is a big issue in China with certs. They have become so valuable, there is an entire forged market. Unscrupulous sellers are just creating the certificates. Typically one can tell by looking closely at the certificate and comparing it with a legitimate one. This one is very obvious.
 
It's a fake. Don't waste your time with this and stay away from the seller. They are trying to rip you off.

This is a strand of cheap freshwater. The certificate states that it is an Akoya strand with blue bodycolor.

If you really like the necklace, offer the seller $15.
No offense but I thought "彩雲珠" was the one with blue body color. This certificate posted here says "彩凛珠", meaning best quality of white akoya pearl under 6mm. Basically "彩凛珠" is like Hanadama quality in smaller size, and "彩雲珠" is like Madama quality in smaller size.

The table below is from PSL's website, in which "ホワイト"means white, and "ブルー" means blue.

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But I totally agree this strand is freshwater, and the certificate, fake or real, has nothing to do with this strand.
 
I'm a bit mystified that grading reports (subjective opinion) are being presented, charged and accepted as 'certificates' (scientific determination). Nice racket, either as a fraud or legitimate.
 
I was looking at the certificate and I thought the grading on the cert looks decent. I didn’t realised it could be a fake cert 😢 I do thought it’s odd that the shapes are not round but the cert stated otherwise.

I guess I won’t attempt to buy from reseller since I’m not experience enough.

Beside pearl paradise, and pearl of joy, are there other trustworthy website to recommend? Or any place in Japan to recommend?
 
No offense but I thought "彩雲珠" was the one with blue body color. This certificate posted here says "彩凛珠", meaning best quality of white akoya pearl under 6mm. Basically "彩凛珠" is like Hanadama quality in smaller size, and "彩雲珠" is like Madama quality in smaller size.

The table below is from PSL's website, in which "ホワイト"means white, and "ブルー" means blue.

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But I totally agree this strand is freshwater, and the certificate, fake or real, has nothing to do with this strand.

This is where it says the bodycolor is blue. It doesn't match with the rest of the certificate, and it's written in Katakana, which is a form of writing that has no corresponding meanings in Chinese.

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This is where it says the bodycolor is blue. It doesn't match with the rest of the certificate, and it's written in Katakana, which is a form of writing that has no corresponding meanings in Chinese.

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I see where you were talking about now. It has nothing to do with Katakana or Chinese, not sure why you brought that up, I simply didn't read the cert far down enough, as I didn't expect a cert would conflict with itself – I assumed it was an authentic certificate. "ブルー" does mean blue, so you were absolutely right! And this is obviously a fake cert as it conflicts with itself.
 
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I'm a bit mystified that grading reports (subjective opinion) are being presented, charged and accepted as 'certificates' (scientific determination). Nice racket, either as a fraud or legitimate.
Even with my zero fluency in oriental languages, I was bewildered why a knot-less strand of mismatched shaped freshwater pearls with a cheap clasp needed a certificate in the first place.
 
I see where you were talking about now. It has nothing to do with Katakana or Chinese, not sure why you brought that up
I meant this is why the person who created the cert didn't catch the "Blue" part because it isn't written in Kanji, or Chinese characters. They got the 形縁珠 but missed the ブルー. The forger reads Chinese but does not read Japanese katakana or they would have caught this error.
 
Another one of these..
China is mass producing these certs to match with Chinese FWP (or what they call Chinese AK). These are mostly being passed around through livestreams which is killing their own market. Now that no one is buying them locally, they started coming for western consumers. You'll see a lot of these on IG live and influencers speaking in English.
 
I meant this is why the person who created the cert didn't catch the "Blue" part because it isn't written in Kanji, or Chinese characters. They got the 形縁珠 but missed the ブルー. The forger reads Chinese but does not read Japanese katakana or they would have caught this error.
Yea it's really becoming a problem. Not everyone has adequate language skills or expertise to identify the certificates. How ironic there's one day a cert needs to be cert-ed! And here we are.:ROFLMAO:
 
Yea it's really becoming a problem. Not everyone has adequate language skills or expertise to identify the certificates. How ironic there's one day a cert needs to be cert-ed! And here we are.:ROFLMAO:
Easier today if anything.. Just throw the picture into Chatgpt.
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I’ll start with the translation of the certificate. Based on what’s visible, I’ll identify the text/kanji and their meanings. Once translated, I’ll assess whether the necklace in the image matches the certificate details.




Top Section:


  1. 真珠鑑別鑑定書 (Shinju Kanbetsu Kanteisho)
    • Certificate of Pearl Identification and Grading.



Left Section (Item Details):


  1. 検査の結果、「真珠」であることを証明します。 (Kensa no kekka, "shinju" de aru koto o shoumei shimasu.)
    • As a result of inspection, it is certified as a "pearl."
  2. 真珠の種類: アコヤ真珠 (Shinju no shurui: Akoya shinju)
    • Type of Pearl: Akoya Pearl.
  3. 品名 (Hinmei): ネックレス (Nekkuresu)
    • Item Name: Necklace.
  4. サイズ (Saizu): 約5.0-5.5mm (Yaku 5.0-5.5mm)
    • Size: Approximately 5.0-5.5mm.



Right Section (Quality Analysis):


  1. 特別表示: 形状系 (Tokubetsu Hyouji: Keijou-kei)
    • Special Mark: Shape-related.
  2. 真珠層厚みの測定 (Shinju-sou atsumi no sokutei): 0.3mm
    • Thickness of Pearl Layers: 0.3mm.
  3. 干渉色 (Kanshou-shoku): ピンクグリーン系 (Pinkuguriin-kei)
    • Interference Color: Pink-Green Tone.
  4. ボディーカラー (Bodii-karaa): ブルー系 (Buruu-kei)
    • Body Color: Blue Tone.
  5. 表面の状態 (Hyoumen no joutai): わずかにある (Wazuka ni aru)
    • Surface Condition: Slightly Present.
  6. 形状 (Keijou): ラウンド系 (Raundo-kei)
    • Shape: Round.



Bottom Section:


  1. 備考欄 (Bikou-ran):
    • Notes area; specific notes are unclear in this image but typically contain observations or additional details.
  2. 品質マーク (Hinshitsu Maaku):
    • Quality Mark.
  3. パールサイエンス研究所 (Pearl Science Laboratory)
    • Pearl Science Laboratory.
  4. URL: www.sinjukken.jp
    • Website.



Matching the Necklace to the Certificate:


  1. Size: The pearls in the strand appear consistent with the listed size of 5.0-5.5mm.
  2. Color: The strand reflects a pinkish-green interference tone and a bluish body color, aligning with the certificate's description.
  3. Shape: The pearls are round, as noted in the certificate.
  4. Surface: While the strand is slightly reflective and smooth, assessing "slight" blemishes in detail requires a closer look.



Let me know if you'd like me to clarify or enhance any part further!

Then upload the second picture provided which shows better clarity.. And GPT can evaluate correctly.
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Looking closely at the new image of the strand you’ve provided, I can identify some observations:


  1. Size Discrepancy:
    The pearls in this strand seem smaller than the 5.0-5.5mm size listed on the certificate. The relative scale and appearance suggest the strand may not match the certified dimensions.
  2. Shape Variability:
    The certificate specifies "Round (ラウンド系)" pearls, but some pearls in this strand appear off-round or slightly irregular. This irregularity doesn’t align with the certified shape.
  3. Surface Quality:
    The strand shows more noticeable surface irregularities than what would be described as “slightly present” in the certificate. Some pearls have visible dimples or blemishes, which don't fit the quality stated.
  4. Luster and Color:
    While it is hard to evaluate precise color tones from a photo, the strand's luster and overtone do not clearly align with the described "pink-green interference" and "blue body color" from the certificate.

Conclusion:​


The strand shown in this photo does not seem to match the details of the certificate provided. This includes differences in size, shape, surface quality, and possibly color/luster. If this strand was sold alongside the certificate, it might require further clarification from the seller.
 
Also for reference, the plastic sleeve cover does not extend that far into the middle. See a real PSL cert w/ cover here.. I marked off the plastic w/ red lines.
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Here's also a video discussing fake certs in Mandarin
 
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Easier today if anything.. Just throw the picture into Chatgpt.



Then upload the second picture provided which shows better clarity.. And GPT can evaluate correctly.
Still, a cert now needs to be cert-ed, by human or bot. Using ChatGPT is a brilliant idea, but you still need to read extra, and AI isn’t always correct or complete. For example, it concluded the necklace didn’t match the cert, but wasn’t able to tell that was a forged cert. I won’t call it easier, much less my free version of chatGPT doesn’t do that for me, while in China I doubt how many people have access to chatGPT.

I simply stay away from any PSL certificates and rely on my eyes and the knowledge I learned from here and elsewhere. So far so good. 🤞
 
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