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  • Originally posted by Pearl Dreams View Post
    Here is my reasoning for using 5x the finished length of the necklace.

    1. Knots use up a lot of thread.
    Number of knots. The more knots you make, the more thread is needed. For a necklace of any given length, there will be more pearls if the pearls are small than if they are large. If you knot between each pearl, a necklace of small pearls will have more knots than a necklace of large pearls. So you'd need more thread, not less, if you knot between every pearl and the pearls are small.

    Type / size of knots. Jeweler's knots, being larger, use more thread than regular overhand knots. Sometimes I find I have to make a jeweler's knot when a pearl has a larger than usual drill hole, and a regular knot would slip into the drill hole. (To make a jeweler's knot, you pass the thread one more time through the loop before tightening the knot.)

    2. The "tail" of thread that you cut off after the initial back-knotting uses up about 3 inches of thread, also.

    3. It is harder to maneuver the needle when finishing up the strand if there is only a small amount of thread left. (Same goes for sewing; it's easier to make a final knot if there's around 6 inches of doubled thread left over, which is 12 inches not doubled.)

    4. Thread is cheap, and time is precious. It is a huge nuisance to run out of thread and have to start over.

    For all these reasons I err on the side of using more thread, even though it means throwing away a bit of thread when I'm done.
    Of course I agree with each number on this list...#4 is #1 in my book!
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    • Wonderful—your thread length explanations are so helpful! Thank you, Patteye, JP, Charlotta and PD!

      I purchased some wee 3 mm Akoya keshis (which are gorgeous!) from Cees, and am experimenting with leftover pieces of Beaders Secret as to which might look best—all knotted, or just every few pearls knotted, or just the beginning/ending knotted. Decisions!

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      • I don't care for the look of knotted small pearls... the darn knots just stand out . One possibility is to knot every few inches and hide the knot under a 3mm or 2.5mm gold bead. That way if it breaks you won't lose many.
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        • My new favorite way to cut through the old knots when restringing a necklace is to use my Swanstrom super-flush cutters. These come in different sizes but this is the one I have:
          https://www.riogrande.com/product/sw...-size-4/111712

          I used this to cut apart three necklaces this week, all strung with Pattye's Serafil. My old cutters weren't quite sharp enough for this task but the Swanstroms cut like a dream, even better than the razor craft knife I was using previously.

          This reduces the risk of a knot getting pulled into a drill hole and having to be drilled out.
          Last edited by Pearl Dreams; 09-28-2020, 09:08 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Pearl Dreams View Post
            My new favorite way to cut through the old knots when restringing a necklace is to use my Swanstrom super-flush cutters. These come in different sizes but this is the one I have:
            https://www.riogrande.com/product/sw...-size-4/111712

            I used this to cut apart three necklaces this week, all strung with Beaders Secret. My old cutters weren't quite sharp enough for this task but the Swanstroms cut like a dream, even better than the razor craft knife I was using previously.

            This reduces the risk of a knot getting pulled into a drill hole and having to be drilled out.

            Totally agree... I've always used flush cutters to cut through the knots. Everything else seems too wide and scrapes the pearls.
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            • Yes!! I agree also! Flush cutters are the way to go! Those cutters look terrific, PD! I haven't tried Swanstrom but highly recommend investing in quality tools if one gets serious about making jewelry.
              Pattye


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              • This is my Favourite. Thread. Ever. (pun intended)

                ​​​​ I have been knitting pearls (and other beads) for many years. I have tried dozens of threads, knots, and a few different techniques. My "most" reliable technique required a 3 times pass of thread through a bead for the final end knots but ... BUT!!! ... this meant that the knot itself was too small, even with an extra loop. It was more often sheer luck, that I found a combination that worked. And this was a performance that occurred every time

                Now, I have found a new method (not so different that it's a headache) that truly truly works. Well, so far.
                Thank you SO much Pearl Dreams. And Pattye, who has supplied me with lovely thread. (My bad, I dislike silk with the needle, and PowerPro) And thanks too to all the others who have contributed to this thread. You are all awesome, and dressed in stunning pearls too! Bonus points.

                If there are any tips re knotting the first pearl after the second lhalf of the clasp, that would be welcome. The double sided sticky tape is a good assistant, but if anyone has any other tips besides practice, that'd be great. I've had Lotsa practice.

                And a supplier for the 50 pack of fine collapsible beading needles??? I live in Australia, some US vendors don't ship.

                Again THANK YOU all
                Ruth

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                • Hi softnsunny, So glad you found Patty's Serafil thread to meet your needs. I love it too! When back knotting through the last pearls on a strand, I leave three or four unknotted. Then add the gimp and clasp. I lay them flat on the table and ease the thread through while applying light pressure on the last pearls to keep them in place while tightening the gimp up against the last pearl. You do not have to plan a gap, There will be enough room to do half hitch knots between the unknotted pearls. If you run the thread through the next pearl before cutting, you have a neater finish. Hope this makes sense. Please show us a picture of your work!
                  Pattye also sells several excellent beading needles.

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                  • Softnsunny, on page 1, post #9, PearlDreams gives instructions and some photos for adding the 2nd half of the clasp and finishing the last 4 pearls. I'll add here additional photos tomorrow that might be helpful, with a slightly different view.

                    Did you find a source for the 50 pack beading needles? I might be able to help.



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                    • Congratulations to all who have accepted the challenge of learning to knot pearls/beads and carry on the legacy of stringing and knotting as a practical skill and art form.
                      Pattye


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                      • Sometimes I only knot back through 3 pearls as I show here on this bracelet. On necklaces I do 4 pearls. Using the thinnest pin (.4mm) to make a channel through the last pearl has saved my sanity and many needles from destruction! Hope this posts ok!
                        Pattye


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                        • Ooh Pattye, Thank You for the detailed tutorial! Those last 3 pearls and that channel get my hands every time. Making a space with a thin pin ... brilliant. Thank You
                          Cathy

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                          • Pattye thank you so much for this hint about using a rigid pin to make a channel. I had never thought to do that believing that if it wasn't going to take the finest needle it wouldn't allow for anything else, not taking into consideration the rigidity. I will give this a go in future.

                            softnsunny I too am in AU and have private messaged you about needles.

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                            • You're most welcome, Cathy and Pella!
                              Pattye


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                              • Thanks for the photo tutorial ... great tips.
                                Never stop learning!

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