Help please, thread strength for rosebud necklace

I buy 0.8mm vermeil and sterling silver gimp from firemountaingems.com. That might fit.

Alternatively you could use a wire cutter to cut the soldered ring off the clasp, and replace it with an open jump ring.

You could also skip the gimp entirely and string the thread right onto the soldered ring. The gimp provides a nice professional-looking touch and protects the thread, but it is not absolutely necessary, particularly if you use a strong synthetic thread like Serafil or Beaders Secret instead of silk. Also you will likely want to restring the necklace periodically anyway, every year or two at least. The thread will not have gotten very worn by then.
 
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Another solution is to use a different clasp, and save that one for a future necklace strung on beading wire, which will pass through the little soldered ring easily.
 
I had the same problem with a strand I just finished. Over time, I don't know how successful my fix will be, but I cut two little pieces of gimp and strung them gimp, ring, gimp and snugged them together. Hopefully, snugging them tightly together will protect the Beaders Secret as if it was one piece of gimp.
 
If I could suggest that you buy the pack with the different size gimp, I'm sure you'd find it useful. I think it is from .6 to .9 . Each size is in about a 4 in length so it's enough to get you started and see what you need. Patty sells lots of gimp in various colours as well.

You just need to collect a few things that might come in handy. A selection of jump rings in different sizes (very inexpensive ) dont buy silver plate, buy sterling. Or Gold filled. Good round nose pliers, flat nose pliers, needle nose pliers. wire cutters etc. That's plenty to get you started. A few round silver beads in different sizes is a good thing to have on hand as well... maybe 4mm 5mm 6mm . They can be useful to add a bit of length if you need it or just to add some bling.

PD is right, the fastest thing might be to buy another clasp. But it's worth getting some of the items I mentioned.
 
I also bought different sizes of gimp from Fire Mountain Gems. The small size comes in handy every now and then. So do the larger sizes. Since a small packet lasts forever, I just bought gold and silver all in different sizes, and now I always have it on hand. I also bought gimp from Pattye, so I probably have a lifetime supply now.
 
If a necklace is heavy, and I have used wire and clamshell bead tips, I attach two jump rings side by side. Nothing will budge that and it looks more like a design element. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with all clasps.

It's nice to see that there are more options for crimps/covers! :)
 
Thank you all for your replies! I think you all are right, I need more sizes of french wire. I'll stock up this week, and see if I can get a smaller size to fit through the ring. I tried squishing the french wire, JerseyPearl, and it ALMOST fit through. If not, I know I'll probably need a different clasp for this necklace. I know I could take the ring off, but I think the clasp would really work great for a wire strung necklace.

That's a cool idea with the gimp, Parrot Lady! It took me a minute to picture in my head what you did, good thinking. I'm going to start stocking up on all those little supplies, Katbran. This seems like a hobby I won't be dropping anytime soon, so I need to get a respectable assortment of supplies. I'm off to shop Rio and FM, I'll post later if I ever get this finished!
 
Thanks everyone for all of the information, I finally got the necklace finished. The smallest gimp at Rio turned out to work. I also scrutinized the moonstone beads a little more, and took out ones with rough drill holes. The ones left in were fatter and more rounded, and were no problem to string. Next up is practicing finishing a necklace on wire, then learning how to wire wrap pearls!
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Hi there, it's great to see you're creating such a thoughtful necklace for your mother-in-law!
It sounds like you've done a lot of research and put real care into each strand. I’d suggest using a 30# thread for your rosebud necklace as well, especially with the 8-9mm pearls. It strikes the right balance between strength and flexibility, especially for larger beads. I’d recommend using Beaders’ Secret or FireLine—they hold up well and will ensure your necklace is both durable and easy to work with.

For the moonstone beads, you might want to double thread them with a slightly lighter strength if the beads are smaller and need a bit more delicate handling.

Also, regarding your worry about the pearl appearance on camera—using a good quality macro lens (or setting on your camera) and ensuring proper lighting can really help capture their beauty. Avoid using flash, as it can create glare. A natural light setup works best!

Hope this helps and good luck with your creation! Can’t wait to see how it turns out.
Good morning everyone! This is my first post to the forum, and I wanted to thank everyone first and foremost. I found a necklace belonging to my grandmother this past summer, a cute little faux pearl strand. It was in rough condition, so I started looking into jewelers to restring it. After searching for information about pearls, and making that classic first purchase with Pearl Paradise for a white freshwater strand.....I'm hooked. This forum sealed the deal as well. So much information! I've been reading up and absorbing for the past few months, I had no idea pearls were so...... amazing. The industry, history, making jewelry, all the beautiful varieties/colors of pearls! So yes, thank you to everyone who has contributed to this forum. I know it was a labor of love, and you all have the same passion for pearls and jewelry design.

So recently I've been stringing my own necklaces, thanks to the wonderful information in the Lowly Beaders' Club. I've finished a few freshwater strands, redone my PP strand with a new clasp, and just finished a tahitian strand (for the 3rd time, it's hard to get it JUST the way you want it, isn't it??). This month, I'm going to make a necklace for my lovely mother-in-law's birthday. I purchased 2 strands of cream rosebud pearls (~8-9 mm ) and a small strand of moonstone beads (~5 mm). I plan to string it on Beaders' Secret and knot in between, with three pearls for each moonstone. The total length should be between 38 and 40 in, as I want her to be able to wear it long or doubled without being too close to her neck.

So far its been really obvious what strength of thread I should use. All of my freshwater strands have been short or very light, so 30# has worked perfectly. My tahitian strand was only 8-10.5mm as well, so 20# was a bit much. I'm stringing a 11-14ish mm strand of ripple pearls for my mom, so I'm going to use 20# and enlarge the end pearl holes if needed. But for this strand, I'm kind of stumped. It doesn't feel excessively heavy, but the length and stones make it more than other strands I've done. I know for aesthetics, the smaller knots from 30# would probably look the best. But.....how to say it nicely? My mother-in-law is a lovely woman, but kind of a spaz. She seems to take good care of her clothes and jewelry, but I'd feel terrible if she broke the necklace at a social event. What do you all think? I hope I took good enough pictures, mad props to Jersey Pearl, BabyNurse, and everyone else who can make a pearl look like more than a shinny blur on camera. Thanks in advance for any input!


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