EU auction listings

[Long Potato]

First, apologies for posting in the eBay forum despite asking about a different auction site. Please let me know if this would be better to post somewhere else!

Anyway, I was wondering if you knowledgeable people had any thoughts about the following auction listings re. types of pearls, likelihood of being dyed, other concerns:

1 Patentverschluss WG 18ct. ca. D 2,2cm, (https://www.lot-tissimo.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/weidler/catalogue-id-auktio53-10091/lot-c64f2e38-1417-41a6-98e7-b42800877ede)
The inner strand looks like freshwaters to me; the outer strand maybe Akoyas?

1 grau-blaue Perlenkette ungleiche Form ca. L max. 11mm, (https://www.lot-tissimo.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/weidler/catalogue-id-auktio53-10091/lot-d1d5be22-7971-4f39-b769-b42800877b02)
Maybe baroque Akoyas? Or too large?

1 Perlenkette mit grau-roséfarbenem Schimmer ca. D 7,5mm, (https://www.lot-tissimo.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/weidler/catalogue-id-auktio53-10091/lot-ce783de9-7518-44e8-9f18-b42800877d6a)
Same questions, really

This auctioneer also has a number of listings of separate, detachable clasps such as:

1 Patentverschluss GG 18ct. (https://www.lot-tissimo.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/weidler/catalogue-id-auktio53-10091/lot-45d4fb00-ac96-4286-bd5b-b4280087a5fc)
or
1 Patentverschluss GG 18ct. (https://www.lot-tissimo.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/weidler/catalogue-id-auktio53-10091/lot-c31327bf-95df-4507-b212-b4280087a6e5)
or
1 Patentverschluss wohl Metall "Weltkugel" (https://www.lot-tissimo.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/weidler/catalogue-id-auktio53-10091/lot-0e5cb938-b21d-49de-90f7-b4280087a440)

I asked the auctioneer which clasps would fit which strands, and they replied that they were "standard patent clasps" and implied that any of them would fit the strands. Are they really interchangeable like that? (I have another pearl necklace with a similar clasp, but the bits that go into the clasp are shaped differently from the ones in this auction.)

Thanks in advance for any info or advice!

 

[Pearl Dreams]

I can't speak to the clasps other than to say that a safety clasp is best for pearls, IMO. Pearls are heavy and I once barely caught my baroque akoya pearls when the clasp they came with (which didn't have a safety feature) simply opened up, and they fell off my neck.

Your 1st link, I agree: akoyas on the outside and FW inside.
2nd link, agree, baroque akoyas. I don't see dye concentrations and the color could be natural. They are pretty.
3rd link, I think akoyas on the outside and dyed pearls of some sort on the inside.

 

[ennui]

I'm not aware of interchangeable clasps ... maybe the auctioneer means you can restring the pearls and change the clasp?

 

[Long Potato]

In my (limited) understanding, the pearls or beads are strung on a cord with a metal connector at each end. These connectors then fit securely but removably into either side of a decorative clasp (you can see them attached on one side but not the other in this listing: 1 Kette wohl Lapislazuli ca. D 18mm, (https://www.lot-tissimo.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/weidler/catalogue-id-auktio53-10091/lot-0c211743-97ee-4f1f-b3a0-b4280087b666)). I think the idea is that you can have multiple strands and multiple clasps to mix and match for different lengths, looks, etc. But I haven't been able to find much information about them online. Looking at, say, photos in different auction listings, the connectors and the holes in the clasps can be shaped somewhat differently, as if there are different models/manufacturers, and I don't know if they need to be the right kind to work well together.

The one necklace I have like this, well, I've never worn it because it needs restringing So I don't have a feel for its reliability.

 

[Long Potato]

I'm not aware of interchangeable clasps ... maybe the auctioneer means you can restring the pearls and change the clasp?

That's a generous interpretation of "interchangeable"

 

[Pearl Dreams]

Oh yes. I am aware of those kinds of clasps. A member of Pearl Guide, Anna Tabakhova, created one of those clasps and wrote a book on the history of clasps, a copy of which I own:

Thread 'Pearls and clasps, in "Clasps – 4,000 Years of fasteners in Jewellery"'

Oct 17, 2016

Dear PG friends,
I have been away from the forum for a long time, being very busy to finish my book on history of clasps. Now the french version is released today, and some PG members advised me to communicate on PG though the english version is not available yet.

I will come later for more details, but there is a chapter on pearls and clasps in the book.
In the meantime more can be seen on the FB page https://www.facebook.com/the.clasp.in.jewellery.4000.years.of.history/

For the new PG members, you might like to see photos I took on several major exhibitions, click on link below...

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[ennui]

That's a generous interpretation of "interchangeable"

I don't get out much.
The lapis beads are pretty.

 

[BWeaves]

They look like bayonet clasps but with two female ends on the clasp, and two male ends on the strands of pearls. So the clasps should be interchangeable with the strands.