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  • BAS
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    Ooh, I have golden akoya but I don't dare submerge them for fear of messing with the silk thread. Sorry, guys...

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  • amti
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    Very neat observations! I wish I had some golden akoyas.

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  • Tucs
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    Very interesting, too bad I don't own any golden akoya.

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  • Caitlin
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    I love those pearls and am learning something in this thread. Thanks!

    Also I forgot all about E Unio Plurum .
    Love that you are using it!!

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  • Pearl Dreams
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    Wow, that is interesting! I think your FWP didn't alter as much as mine did under water, but it does resemble the high orient studs when under the water. (I especially love the colors we see in the FWP that is directly to the left of the bronze/gold pearl.)

    Now if only we had some known-golden akoyas to photograph under water....

    Does anyone have some golden akoyas they would be willing to submerge in water and photograph?

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  • perlas
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    Originally posted by Pearl Dreams View Post
    You can get around the orient by submerging the pearls in water and then photographing. I'm using natural light, indoors
    I submerged the pearls in a bowl of water and here are the results I got:

    Indoors - the studs seem of same color but I think the orient and luster became more pronounced in all the pearls. The golden FWP in the strand seem to be more golden submerged but I see a hint of pink/peach (?) body color? They look similar to the high orient studs?

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    This is how the pearls registered in direct sunlight submerged in water:

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  • perlas
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    Nice input Pearl Dreams! I will try them tomorrow.

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  • Pearl Dreams
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    Here is another (dry) comparison of the gold FWP and the GSS to compare color; the gold FWP is definitely redder:
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  • Pearl Dreams
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    You can get around the orient by submerging the pearls in water and then photographing. I'm using natural light, indoors (using a regular autofocus camera, nothing fancy).

    Here are some photos I just took.

    • The exotic FW strand submerged in water in a white bowl. The metallic gold pearl is the one between the pink and white pearls.
    Interesting colors, no? I don't know what the body color is -- it seems like 3 different colors: blue, green and pink.

    • The gold FW strand next to my GSS strand in a dry white bowl (this photo actually makes it ruddier than it looks to my eye), and also submerged in water. The color of the GSS doesn't change appreciably but the gold FWP certainly does. In other words, the gold color of this FWP is produced by orient-- it's not a body color.
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  • perlas
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    Pattye no offense taken. I was also just pointing out my limitations in taking photos. I do not have a professional camera and iPads do not have a flash so I always need natural light!

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  • pattye
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    Perlas, Your photos are wonderful; I certainly didn't mean this as a criticism of them. My laptop monitor display isn't the best. I feel I will forever struggle with taking accurate photos. I don't have an IPad or an IPhone either. Maybe someday.

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  • perlas
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    Actually Pattye, even between the real pearl and the camera, especially in high luster, high orient pearls, the colors also aren't precise! It has been a challenge for the longest time. I also have only been taking photos via an iPad with no flash.

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  • pattye
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    Beautiful pearls, but I wouldn't guess on these~between the camera and monitor, colors aren't true.

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  • perlas
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    Hi Pearl Dreams,

    Thank you for the photo. You have lovely exotics. I have also compared it with one of my strands of rainbow FWPs and one has a yellowish bronze color. The reason I did not consider FWP is the difference in orient. FWPs with high orient tend to have a pinkish purple to strong purple orient that I have not seen in SSPs. Also, the one of the subject pearls have sort of a chiseled surface common in thick nacred SSPs.

    The rare golden FWPs don't look the same in person with the subject pearls although in my experience looking at golden FWPs in mixed color strands, they can be golden bronze rather than bronze golden (deep golden yellow to be the dominant body color). But then again I haven't seen your pearl in person and your golden pearl has such strong orient and luster it masks the body color!

    Here are photos of the studs compared to a golden FWP with no bead. 1st photo, they almost look the same but the next two should show that the body color of the studs is closer to that of GSSPs and akoyas.

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  • Pearl Dreams
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    perlas,

    I guess I wondered if they could be FWP because of this metallic, golden natural colored FW pearl in my exotic strand that I bought from PP in 2008-- although this one doesn't have a bead nucleus. The gold color is not identical to that of my GSS, but is still golden.

    This strand is 8-9mm and the gold pearl is just off-center, so in the same size range as yours. Could yours be non-bead nucleated FWP?
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