Regarding mop nucleus of lamellindens marginals

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As mop nucleus material should have same density to that of Pearl can we do mop nucleus with lamellindens marginals found in freshwater of India if so can we make it powder and do it in a required shape please explain the possibilities
 
I'm not familiar with that particular shell, but I looked it up and it appears to be very small so the beads could not be cut and shaped from the shell. I've not heard of anyone successfully using reconstituted, ground shell to create MOP nuclei

Here is an old video (and a much younger Jeremy) of a nuclei factory (Mr. Arthur Wong: Fukui Shell Factory) in China. The process involves cutting the shells into cubes and then shaping them into round beads. As you can see from the video, the shells need to be thick enough to cut into cubes.

 
Thank you for response

One more thing if freshwater mussels are floated in 20ft height and 25 ft width natural vessel constructed with stone containing water in natural setting and if I don’t feed any thing from outside will they survive on the photosynthesis activity on top layer of the surface water.
 
Freshwater mussels are filter feeders, which means they obtain their food by filtering microscopic organisms, such as plankton, algae, and bacteria, from the water column. They use their gills to filter and capture these particles, which serve as their primary food source.

In the scenario you described, where freshwater mussels are floating in a 20ft height and 25ft width natural vessel containing water, the mussels would be able to survive if there are enough microscopic organisms present in the water for them to filter and consume. However, there are a few important points to consider:
  1. Depth of water: Freshwater mussels typically inhabit the bottom of rivers, lakes, and streams. If they are floating on the surface of the water, they might not be in their natural habitat, which could affect their ability to feed efficiently.
  2. Natural vessel construction: The natural vessel constructed with stone could provide some substrates for mussels to attach to, but it might not mimic their natural environment accurately. The lack of natural substrates could affect their feeding behavior and overall well-being.
  3. Food availability: The survival of mussels depends on the availability of food particles in the water. If the water in the vessel does not contain enough microscopic organisms for the mussels to feed on, they may struggle to survive solely through photosynthesis.
  4. Reproduction and life cycle: Freshwater mussels have complex life cycles that involve parasitic stages on fish hosts. Without access to their natural environment, their reproductive success might be compromised.
Overall, while mussels may survive for a period in the described setting, it's unlikely to be a sustainable or ideal environment for them in the long term. For their well-being and reproduction, they need to be in their natural habitat with access to suitable food sources and appropriate substrates. Additionally, relying on photosynthesis alone may not provide them with enough nutrition to thrive.
 
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Freshwater mussels are filter feeders, which means they obtain their food by filtering microscopic organisms, such as plankton, algae, and bacteria, from the water column. They use their gills to filter and capture these particles, which serve as their primary food source.

In the scenario you described, where freshwater mussels are floating in a 20ft height and 25ft width natural vessel containing water, the mussels would be able to survive if there are enough microscopic organisms present in the water for them to filter and consume. However, there are a few important points to consider:
  1. Depth of water: Freshwater mussels typically inhabit the bottom of rivers, lakes, and streams. If they are floating on the surface of the water, they might not be in their natural habitat, which could affect their ability to feed efficiently.
  2. Natural vessel construction: The natural vessel constructed with stone could provide some substrates for mussels to attach to, but it might not mimic their natural environment accurately. The lack of natural substrates could affect their feeding behavior and overall well-being.
  3. Food availability: The survival of mussels depends on the availability of food particles in the water. If the water in the vessel does not contain enough microscopic organisms for the mussels to feed on, they may struggle to survive solely through photosynthesis.
  4. Reproduction and life cycle: Freshwater mussels have complex life cycles that involve parasitic stages on fish hosts. Without access to their natural environment, their reproductive success might be compromised.
Overall, while mussels may survive for a period in the described setting, it's unlikely to be a sustainable or ideal environment for them in the long term. For their well-being and reproduction, they need to be in their natural habitat with access to suitable food sources and appropriate substrates. Additionally, relying on photosynthesis alone may not provide them with enough nutrition to thrive.
Very professional!!(y)(y)(y)
 
…can we make it powder and do it in a required shape…
This thread just came to my attention due to a reorganization of the forum threads today.

The poster refers to his concept of producing custom beads from shell powder, in the manner of 3D printing. Having just seen a 60 Minutes report on plans for 3D-printing a moon base, consideration seems quite 'down to Earth!'
 
This thread just came to my attention due to a reorganization of the forum threads today.

The poster refers to his concept of producing custom beads from shell powder, in the manner of 3D printing. Having just seen a 60 Minutes report on plans for 3D-printing a moon base, consideration seems quite 'down to Earth!'
I just read that the people who volunteered to live in the 3-D printed Mars simulation just finished their 1 year and were let free.
 
I just read that the people who volunteered to live in the 3-D printed Mars simulation just finished their 1 year and were let free.
I wonder if Ravi's species-specific inquiry has any merit? Would the matrix material in 3D-printed mussel shell beads make them incompatible? The powder itself is not a mystery, it's mass produced as a soil pH amendment for agriculture and for the poultry industry.
 
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If I did not have a thick-shelled pearly mussel for pearl production I would instead use any other thick shelled animal...but the very best option is to buy them directly from a bead producer.
 
I wonder if Ravi's species-specific inquiry has any merit? Would the matrix material in 3D-printed mussel shell beads make them incompatible? The powder itself is not a mystery, it's mass produced as a soil pH amendment for agriculture and for the poultry industry.
Exactly. At the end of the day, it's just calcium carbonate bound by proteins. In industry, pulverizing is a heat treatment (friction) thus any elegant variation of aragonite will inevitably revert to calcite immediately. At a price per ton it's much cheaper to buy in volume than targeting specific shells as a source. Di-cast presses could do the job similar to prescription pill making, which depend on binding agents, pressure etc. They generally produce matte surfaces and rings where the dies meet. Like painting or restoration, coarse surfaces produce coarse finishes.

Fresh water shells are thick, dense nacre. Ocean shells are thin, fine nacre (for the most part) Many thicker hard-shelled creatures (namely scallops) tend to attacked by acid boring sponges, hence not practical as nuclei. The shells of edible oysters (ostrea) are too soft to use as nuclei.

Then there is thermal co-efficiency. We've seen disasters from mismatched or pirated nuclei before.
 
Exactly. At the end of the day, it's just calcium carbonate bound by proteins. In industry, pulverizing is a heat treatment (friction) thus any elegant variation of aragonite will inevitably revert to calcite immediately. At a price per ton it's much cheaper to buy in volume than targeting specific shells as a source. Di-cast presses could do the job similar to prescription pill making, which depend on binding agents, pressure etc. They generally produce matte surfaces and rings where the dies meet. Like painting or restoration, coarse surfaces produce coarse finishes.

Fresh water shells are thick, dense nacre. Ocean shells are thin, fine nacre (for the most part) Many thicker hard-shelled creatures (namely scallops) tend to attacked by acid boring sponges, hence not practical as nuclei. The shells of edible oysters (ostrea) are too soft to use as nuclei.

Then there is thermal co-efficiency. We've seen disasters from mismatched or pirated nuclei before.
My thoughts exactly.
And I mean...there could be some use of "composite" beads: pieces of shell can be stacked and glued together and then made into beads...but this would be so inefficient: the cost, time, effort and the risk of the beads "cracking".
Definitively stick to the true and tried.
 
My thoughts exactly.
And I mean...there could be some use of "composite" beads: pieces of shell can be stacked and glued together and then made into beads...but this would be so inefficient: the cost, time, effort and the risk of the beads "cracking".
Definitively stick to the true and tried.
So Ravi was just wondering if there might be a commercial outlet for the small shells, other than fertilizer. Seems he's out of luck!
 
Basically: Yes!
 
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