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  • #76
    Originally posted by Camelotshadow View Post
    You can tell alot from a clasp such as age as pearls are harder to judge age. I look for old mine cuts myself.
    I think I did not see your post before, but beware of dating necklaces from the clasp ! A new match between clasps and strands is very common.
    I found many necklaces that have been updated with more contemporary clasps as from the XVIII century to comply with customers taste.
    You may know I have documented a story of clasps over 4000 years, link under my signature and there is a post I started there :
    https://www.pearl-guide.com/forum/sh...Jewellery-quot
    When I met the Victoria and Albert museum in London, that's the first thing the curator warned me about.
    Clasps are such a passion but very tricky sometimes ...
    CliClasp

    My book on clasps' history with lots of pearls in : http://www.editions-terracol.com/en/...jewellery.html
    My versatile jewelry : http://e-boutique.anna-tabakhova.com/en/
    My vintage coral : http://www.etsy.com/shop/OnlyVintageCoral
    Photo report on pearl exhibitions & museum (Paris, London, Berlin, Basel, Geneva ...) http://www.pearl-guide.com/forum/showthread.php?10427

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    • #77
      I was thinking about the previous picture I added, and remember now the drops are removables as the 2 strands (c clasps)
      So it's possible the necklace is the same, and was displayed with 9 drops and only one strand.
      It can esily explain why there are so many variations, if the drop display is free, possible to put one or 9, and with variable number of pearls between them.
      Not easy to know, without knowing if the clasps are original or later adds.
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      • #78
        Reviving this old thread because the necklace is up for Auction!

        The necklace, also known as the "Leuchtenberg necklace," dates to the beginning of the 19th century and is attributed to Nitot who in 1780 founded the jewelry brand Chaumet. It belonged to Augusta Amalia of Bavaria (1788-1851), who was married to Eugène de Beauharnais, the son of the Empress Joséphine de Beauharnais (1763-1814) and stepson of Napoleon Bonaparte.

        You can read the article HERE!
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        • #79
          Oh good t read that I remember attending to this auction ! Fabulous necklace indeed
          CliClasp

          My book on clasps' history with lots of pearls in : http://www.editions-terracol.com/en/...jewellery.html
          My versatile jewelry : http://e-boutique.anna-tabakhova.com/en/
          My vintage coral : http://www.etsy.com/shop/OnlyVintageCoral
          Photo report on pearl exhibitions & museum (Paris, London, Berlin, Basel, Geneva ...) http://www.pearl-guide.com/forum/showthread.php?10427

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          • #80
            Great to see you here CLICLASP
            If you have the chance to attend...please do tell us your impressions of the event
            Douglas McLaurin-Moreno
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            • #81
              I attended the first auction in 2018, lots of photos to see in getting back from page 1, especially the clasp page 5 but not only (well, I love clasps indeed ). I took a lot of photos . Enjoy !
              CliClasp

              My book on clasps' history with lots of pearls in : http://www.editions-terracol.com/en/...jewellery.html
              My versatile jewelry : http://e-boutique.anna-tabakhova.com/en/
              My vintage coral : http://www.etsy.com/shop/OnlyVintageCoral
              Photo report on pearl exhibitions & museum (Paris, London, Berlin, Basel, Geneva ...) http://www.pearl-guide.com/forum/showthread.php?10427

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              • #82
                Here is another article about the necklace and the auction. https://www.thecourtjeweller.com/202...tml#more-35013 Interestingly, the portrait that Douglas posted is being offered in the same lot as the necklace.

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                • CortezPearls
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                  Really!?!? Wow! Makes me want it even more!

              • #83
                Anyone want to chip in and buy it as a group? We'll each get a month to wear it?

                Kidding, but I can dream.

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                • CortezPearls
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                  I would love that...imagine that we could "crowd-fund" one of these amazing jewelry pieces.

              • #84
                Wouldn't it be awesome to create a replica of this necklace in fw pearls? The measurements are available and similar bead caps can be found.
                The clasp, now that would be a challenge!
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                • #85
                  Totally possible to have a replica...and yes indeed: the clasp would be an issue!
                  But to me...what really makes these historical pieces unique is that they are historical, worn by Nobility and unattainable to the masses.
                  Then again, we are actually breathing the same oxygen atoms that Moses, Abraham, Alexander the Great, Mary Stewart, Shakespeare, Tzun Tzu, Buddha, Cervantes, Mikimoto, Mandela, Ghandi, etc...have breathed before...so I'll count myself lucky
                  Breathe in...breathe out!
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