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  • Katbran
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    Wow! I'm taking you to Hong Kong next time to negotiate prices lol !! I can't believe you got that big gorgeous pair for so little ! :0

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  • Tucs
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    Excellent news, Antti! You must be very good at negotiating :-)

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  • pattye
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    Antti,

    So pleased to hear your happy ending, with a glowing referral for these sellers! Enjoy your lovely earrings!

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  • Pearl Dreams
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    Sounds like you got an amazing deal on SSP then-- congratulations!

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  • antti
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    OK, we have reached the end of the story: I contacted a certified appraisal, who told me these pearls are salt water pears from south sea. I got even a certificate, of appraisal. So I got what I were promised, and I can give my whole hearted recommendation to Ling Ling and Li Mei - I will for sure buy pearls from them in the future! I not only got pearls I wanted, but i also had a very friendly experience in discussing with them both. Thanks to all of you as well, for your comments!
    Last edited by antti; 03-30-2015, 04:49 AM.

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  • Tucs
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    They clearly looked like Tahitians to me. Ling Ling also showed me lots of dyed freshwaters, and they were actually very nice (and I did buy a few earring pairs besides the two items I mentioned before), but they looked very different to me compared to the Tahitians.
    A few years later my Tahitian earrings were appraised as Tahitians. Before that, I had also shown them to an expert gemologist (who works at the equivalent of Tiffany's where I live) who said they were very nice Tahitians. Mind you, I wasn't looking for confirmation, as I was already convinced they were.
    Last edited by Tucs; 03-20-2015, 05:22 PM.

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  • antti
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    Hi Tucs,

    Thanks for the comment! I wonder, how did you conclude that your earrings were really Tahitian? I have only good to say about the service I received, and yes the negotiation made me sweat but it was friendly! However, as you can see from the replies, it is not so clear I got what I was told I bought i.e. SSP. As I stated, I am eager to learn how to recognize pearls, so this is a very interesting exercise for me!!

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  • Tucs
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    I bought two items from Ling Ling in 2006, one of them a pair of Tahitian earrings, and I can only say good things about her (I did have to negotiate hard -- I remember sweating like crazy!). I know appraisal value is not market value, but just for reference, my earrings were appraised at ten times what I paid for them.
    My husband bought me a strand from her store last year and he also had a very good experience. He bought freshwaters, though.

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  • antti
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    Thanks a lot for the answers! I am learning about pearls, thanks to all of you! I bought these two pairs from the Hongqiao, the first 11mm pair I bought from Ling Ling who has been described here as an honest place to buy. I did not talk directly with her, but with another lady. But Ling Ling came, and had to approve the price we had negotiated. I also looked at a pair of 12-13 mm, but there the price was stuck at a level I felt is too much for me to invest - given my lack of understanding pearls. The service and attention I received was excellent, I should say. After Ling Ling, I decided to study a little more, and went to Li Mei, where I first had a hard negotiation about a pair. The first pair of pearls she showed, we simply could not agree on the price. I were not really interested in buying, just to find what the price is. Then, there was another pair of 12mm and those are the ones I bought; the detailed photos I posted show one of these two. I could not see any difference in color, quality, roundness etc to the ones I bought from Ling Ling so I thought if the ones I got from Ling Ling are SSP then the other pair is as well. I decided to buy, since the price was better than at Ling Ling so I thought the deal should be good. Provided, of course, the pearls are what LingLing/Li Mei told me they are i.e. SSP.

    I have done both tooth test, and moved the pearls against each other with gentle pressure; I do observe grittiness, they dont move smoothly against each other. But then, maybe I dont have enoug experience to determine exactly what to expect.

    I hope this information helps to find out what these are: SSP, Freshwater, something else, or not pearls at all.
    If SSP, I know where to go next time in Beijing - and if so, I am eagerly waiting for my next trip! If not pearls, at least I know what to avoid - and one always has to pay something, for a lesson! Whatever, it is my first learning experience in pearls, and I value all the insight and help you all provide!!
    Last edited by antti; 03-30-2015, 04:56 AM.

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  • Pearl Dreams
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    Here is what is puzzling: if they are freshwaters, would they be bead nucleated ones, given their roundness?
    But if they are without flaws, would they not be more expensive than that?

    I'm still not sure they are even freshwaters.

    But shell pearls should not be gritty.
    ??

    I don't see how they could be SSP.
    Also don't have a clue which vendor you are referencing.

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  • Katbran
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    I didn't realize that there was a particular store in China that has been mentioned here.. don't remember one. It's certainly hard to know what you are getting as a novice...even when you know a bit it's still hard to know if the price is fair. So you did the right thing and didn't risk a lot of money...so glad you didn't pay the original price at 5x ! You did end up with pretty earrings .. just not pretty SS earrings... hopefully they are very good freshwater.

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  • antti
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    It was around XXX USD per pearl for the 11mm ones and little more for the 12mm ones. Including the hangers close to XXX USD per each, in average, on current exchange rate. I bought them from a dealer who seems to have a very high reputation on this site. I can not tell difference myself, so I ask for help. I have so much to learn about pearls!
    Last edited by antti; 03-30-2015, 04:55 AM.

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  • Jacques
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    Did you pay 200 for each or 200 for both?
    They look like freshwater pearls to me.

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  • antti
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    My iPhone does not focus well on the surface. The photo was taken inside my room, in natural light; you see the reflection of window in both. The difference in color of pearl is due to difference in the
    color of the background; the pearl seems to capture the background color quite strongly.
    Last edited by antti; 03-30-2015, 04:47 AM.

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  • antti
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    Thanks to all of you for the answer!

    I bought the 11m pair from a seller in China, who has been praised very highly on this forum. But I dont want to say any names.

    I asked to see individual pearls, since I wanted to compose my own earrings. Seller showed me some that she said are from
    South Sea, Australia more specifically. They were, according to the seller, their top quality.
    Last edited by antti; 03-30-2015, 04:54 AM.

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