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| http://studiopjj.blogspot.com/2006/12/fireball-cultured-pearls-learning.html Friday, December 22, 2006 Fireball Cultured Pearls: Learning Curves David Federman writes: Quote:
__________________ Caitlin potamilus purpuratus American Pearl Mussel Where can I get a pearl from this mussel? Last edited by Caitlin; 12-23-2006 at 11:27 PM. |
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| Hi Caitlin, As owners of the Strack book, we both know that these big nucleated freshwater rounds already exist both in Japan and China. A 21mm fine round is the current record at the Chenghai operation. This is not futuristic, it even comes from a several-years-old source. I dread the day when China should decide to go for bead nucleation on a large scale. We as consumers should lobby for the solid-nacre product. Why is the fake standard of PPBs being touted over and over again? Just look at the "gem quality" strands of South Sea PPBs being vaunted and fawned over here. In the Matlins book was already 10 years ago a picture of an 18-20mm "gem quality" South Sea PPB strand that sold for US$ 2 million at auction. We just had 3 different large to largest South Sea PPB strands depicted here on the forum within a span of half a year and Harry Winston, Cartier, and other Mystiquery providers have assembled and sold even more not to mention direct sales by Paspaley. That is not rare, that is not precious and whoever buys something like that certainly deserves them. They only look right on sweet transvestites from Transylvania anyhow. Zeide Last edited by Zeide Erskine; 12-23-2006 at 05:44 PM. |
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| I think what you are missing is the difference between an anomaly, and production, Zeide. Matlins was already proven wrong in her nucleated claims, and from first hand experience I know that a lot of farms are bead-nucleating. But large rounds are not being produced, and they are not being sold off as South Seas either.
__________________ Jeremy Shepherd President and Founder PearlParadise.com, Inc. The PearlParadise.com Channel |
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| Hi Jeremy, I think we both know that pearls are being sold for what they are not all the time. Large round white Kasumiga-ura pearls have been around for awhile and so have large bead-nucleated rounds from Chenghai. I do not know how the GIA selected the pearls that they cut open but we also both know that bead-nucleated freshwater pearls existed at the time Antoinette Matlins, Fred Ward, and Elisabeth Strack said they did. It was the GIA that was unbelievable not the other experts. Also very large round South Sea pearls have been around for awhile. Are you trying to say that Sotheby's committed a fraud when they auctioned off the "gem quality" 18-20mm South Sea PPB strand for two million dollars years and years ago? Do you really believe that there have not been any more in the meantime? I know better than that and you should, too. Your (as a plural you including Amanda) large gem strands did not pop out of nowhere. South Sea pearls are flooding the market and I have seen many recently offered as gem quality by reputable jewelers that were clearly treated in many ways. Anyway, as far as I am concerned, PPBs can never be gem quality unless there is a standard for gem quality doublets of synthetic gemstones. I may accept a gem standard for Chatham emeralds but Chatham slices in goshenite will never be considered gem-quality emeralds by anybody. Zeide |
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| That is your view, Zeide. I am ok with that. And yes, I do know that large South Seas have been around for a while. That is not in question. But that particular strand you are referring to is special - you and I both know that, even though you refer to it as a pearl plated bead. Amanda posted her picture because her strand was also special. One of a kind? No... but rare, yes. Is there anything fraudulent about these strands? Maybe to you and a couple dozen other that have been proselytized into believing only tissue-nucleated pearls are pearls. But for the millions and millions of other pearl lovers out there, myself included, we still find real beauty in Tahitians, South Seas, and yes, even Akoya! Quote:
Have they been produced? Sure they have. Are they produced on the scale that many still claim, yourself included? Absolutely not. The farms that bead nucleate do just that - they bead nucleate. Coming through their harvests it is rare to find any rounds, and a gem would be like winning the lottery. I have seen rounds in this fashion before, but most look like indicator beads out of Indonesia. But, they still cost more than their round FW cousins, because they are rare.
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| Hi Caitlin, I just bought a strand of the weirdest fireballs in heat-treated golden color. The pearls have great water, mirror and orient and range in shape from Mickey Mouse head to piggy head to mouse to rooster. Now I have to study goldsmithing. And, yes, I realize that they are bead nucleated but I only paid US$ 17.00 plus modest shipping for the whole strand. They are crafting beads and probably deserving of imaginative settings. I would not feel as enthusiastic about an akoya or South Sea PPB of which I also own a few but do not cherish them like my natural pearls or solid-nacre cultured pearls be they freshwater, marine or any combination of both. And Jeremy, To some extent I agree with you. In Fred Ward's slim volume on pearls he shows a picture of clearly tissue nucleated round freshwater pearls and states that such round shapes in these large sizes (up to 8.5mm by the looks of it) can only be attained by bead or reshaped pearl nucleation. That is clearly false. However, the Chenghai farm has been putting out substantially higher quantities of large fine rounds than you seem to think. Those were sold as freshwater pearls in the fine and fancy colors and unfortunately sometimes also as South Sea pearls in the ordinary white to cream range. Zeide Last edited by Zeide Erskine; 12-24-2006 at 02:04 AM. |
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