[sbabar]

Can any ony one please help me to find natural oyster pearl - just one single stone. Weight should be min. 420 mg to 560 mg, colour pinkish, bright, more or less round shape.
email: sbabar1@fastmail.fm

Babar

[DrTKStern]

Hi,

I have a large number of natural pearls, GIA certified. Where are you located?

Tom Stern,MD

[you hongqing]

I have lots of the natural pearls when our farm harvests the sea cultured pearls. Here is the picture.

[jshepherd]

Originally Posted by you hongqing

I have lots of the natural pearls when our farm harvests the sea cultured pearls. Here is the picture.

Those are actually keshi pearls. Even though they are naturally occurring pearls they are not quite the same thing.

[pattye]

Oh, it's a lovely photo!! Lots of delicious French Vanilla jelly bellies!

Pattye
so many pearls, so little time

[Kevin Canning]

ah ah ah - no eating them Pattye

[Valeria101]

Originally Posted by you hongqing

I have lots of the natural pearls when our farm harvests the sea cultured pearls. Here is the picture.

How and where are these sold? Do you make any selection? How does it work?

[you hongqing]

Normly my farm gets the natural pearls or keshi pearls when harvetsting the cultured pearls. The small-size-round-shape pearls without nuclei ro mantle tissue are selected as natural pearls. And then the other shape pearls are keshi pearls.

[GemGeek]

Originally Posted by you hongqing

Normly my farm gets the natural pearls or keshi pearls when harvetsting the cultured pearls. The small-size-round-shape pearls without nuclei ro mantle tissue are selected as natural pearls. And then the other shape pearls are keshi pearls.

They don't meet the internationally recognized criteria for natural pearls because they are a byproduct of culturing, but they are absolutely beautiful! Thanks for posting the photos.

[pernula]

I like the keishi pearls, especially the darker color ones in the second picture.

Are you affiliated with Jeremy's Pearl Paradise? Is it possible to get some of those sea water keishi pearls?

Thanks,
Pernula

[Valeria101]

Originally Posted by hongqing

Normally my farm gets the natural pearls or keshi pearls when harvesting the cultured pearls. The small-size-round-shape pearls without nuclei or mantle tissue are selected as natural pearls.

Interesting... I know CIBJO's definition too... but their 'rules' are just guidelines, not mandatory.

Isn't there some debate still going on about this subject?

Can these roundish keshi [i] w/o traces of mantle tissue (an certainly w/o nuclei) even be identified as different from non-cultured? I used to think that it was only those traces of mantle that allowed a positive ID test.

[GemGeek]

We're talking the Federal Trade Commission. Other regulatory bodies around the world also agree on this because there were a lot of misleading sales tactics and abuse.

On the other hand, it's been so many years since there was a natural pearl market, they ought to reclassify naturals so that cultured pearls could be advertised as just pearls. Right now it's an FTC violation to advertise/describe cultured pearls without the word cultured.

My beef with CIBJO is that they won't recognize freshwater keshi, only marine.

[Valeria101]

Oops for the FTC! Didn't think of that crucial bit.

The problem of origin identification (if there is a problem!) remains...

Anyway, perhaps I'm going way, way off the beaten track even daring to think of all-nacre, non-nucleated pearls occurring alongside the cultured, as 'natural pearls'.

Originally Posted by GemGeek

My beef with CIBJO is that they won't recognize freshwater keshi, only marine.

Well... isn't the term referring to different things for freshwater (i.e. a certain form) ad saltwater (i.e. certain conditions of pearl formation) ? By the current definition, all freshwater pearls would qualify as 'keshi' as long as they are tissue nucleated... Confusing, alright. Discriminating ?

[GemGeek]

Originally Posted by Valeria101

Confusing, alright. Discriminating ?

Absolutely!