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Old 04-02-2008, 12:18 PM
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Hello,

I read in a thread about PP's Freshadamas vs. AAA that Jeremy's "Gem Quality" strands are not listed on his site.

Are AAAs not gem quality?
I recently bought an AAA bracelet from PP, and I was under the impression that it would be gem quality.

I also read that Freshadamas are gem quality plus orient. Is that correct?

Can you explain what gem quality is?

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Old 04-02-2008, 01:03 PM
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I think AAA has a margin for surface blemishing, so gem would technically be almost flawless. Freshadama is gem plus orient as per PP. At least that is my understanding.
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:35 PM
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Kay, Raisondetre is absolutely correct.

AAA pearls come as hanks and finish up as strands after stringing, while Freshadama quality and Gem quality come from loose pearls, the ones that are usually put aside for earrings, as these pearls must be flawless as they can be seen and inspected by people.

Both Freshadama and Gem are loose, difference is just that on the gem-quality you canīt see any orient but on the Freshadama you should see at least some.

When I posted under "The one exotic" under "Show us your pearls", You can look at my Gem strand (white) together with Akoya strand (baroque), I did post it just for that reason, as so many of our members were discussing PP:s January Special, which was this strand BTW.
It is 16 inch long compared to 24 inch (Akoya-strand).

the quality then would be in PP:s case:
AA+ (never under) for Freshwater pearls:
AAA
Gem
Freshadama
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:25 PM
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gem-quality you canīt see any orient
Not necessarily true, gem quality or even AAA strands often display orient its just not part of the product definition like a Freshadama.

You have to remember that Freshadama IS gem quality that has been sorted based on orient. So while some gem quality strands may not make the Freshadama threshold, all Freshadama pearls are gem quality.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:11 PM
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Thanks so much for the clear explanations!
So, if you want gem quality, you have to ask the vendor if they have any available, correct? Is there a reason they are not openly offered? Is the price point similar to Freshadamas/Elite/Presidential?

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Freshadamas/Elite/Presidential?
Those are branded names for Gem quality FWP's .
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:17 PM
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Those are branded names for Gem quality FWP's .
Sorry, I was confused because of Jerin's above post.

AA
AAA
Gem
Freshadama/Elite/Presidential

I was assuming that there is a separate category for gem quality that is not branded.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:30 AM
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There is still no universal grading for pearls, though most of the vendors here use the set criteria listed on their websites, which are by and large identical. The branding is vendor dependent and as discussed before different vendors have different specifications, e.g. roundness, luster, orient. So they are all gem quality, but not all vendors will have the pearls you want. The more information the consumer can provide the better vendors and suit your requests.

I do agree orient is present on all grades and types of pearls - it's most pronounced in large baroques as we can see from previous events.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:38 AM
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AAA pearls come as hanks and finish up as strands after stringing, while Freshadama quality and Gem quality come from loose pearls,
So is it impossible to buy gem quality strands from any company? You'd only be able to get loose pearls?
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:35 PM
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Sure you can. That's where freshadama and the other gem lines come from. The whole idea of those lines is that gem/loose pearls are gathered, sorted, matched, drilled and then strung for necklaces/bracelets and set for rings/earrings/pendants.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:55 PM
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Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant is it impossible to buy unfinished gem quality strands from wholesale pearl suppliers. Pearl Paradise only sells finished Freshadama and loose pearls I think
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In quantity, I don't know. But if you are wanting one or two unfinished strands so you could make your own designs with them, I would still try contacting one of the vendors and asking.
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I am sure they will sell you one-with or without clasp.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:39 PM
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That's fantastic, I hadn't thought to contact the vendors on the forum. Thanks guys
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:13 PM
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Most of the vendors do wholesale I think. Retail is just a small but growing part of their business.
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