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    Default Hanadamas at the Tucson Show

    Does anyone know if there are dealers that sell hanadama pearls at the Tucson show? I know there are online sellers offering them, but I would really like to see them in person if possible. Many thanks.

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    Hi welcome, sorry for the delay. Who can help? Caitlin?

    (I've never been to Tuscon, but many others have.)

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    I'm wondering if you might get Jeremy (Pearl Paradise) or other vendors on PG to bring a selection as they are going anyway. If it's for personal use, that is.

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    I haven't noticed any. You would probably have to ask each vendor if they have them.
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    Isn't there a list published on the website of potential vendors? With contact information? or no?

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    Just about any akoya vendor from Japan will have hanadama grade and be willing to cert them if you want if they haven't already. There is a range, however. I've recently been surprised at the quality that has passed their certification.

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    I'm totally novice about akoyas, as you know Jeremy. (and unlikely to venture into what seems to be a field full of potholes) I might dabble at one or two coloured strands but very happiiy leave the whites to experts such as you
    What is the price lift for a strand with a certificate as against an identical one without? Will having a certificate help a strand keep some value second hand?
    Is it really worth having or is it good branding - your comment just made makes me wonder, if they are passing not-so-superbs. Is there a bit of (reverse) grade inflation as it were? Is it just mystique, smoke and mirrors?
    Thanks

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    A lab certificate will always enhance the value and salability of any gem. In pearls, it's the closest possible way to come to some sort of commoditization since no international or common standards exist. If pearls were completely commoditized as diamonds are, most companies that specialize in pearls would go out of business or need to be completely restructured.

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    There is a reason you never see certified, commoditized items (like diamonds) on QVC, ShopNBC or HSN. Potential buyers would immediately compare the pricing against something like Rappaport or even Blue Nile and realize how huge the actual markups are.

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    I know this is going to lead to the question "why isn't there a system?" but to put it into perspective look at diamonds.

    White diamonds have 23 color grades. There are 11 clarity grades on the GIA clarity scale. The are graded on girdle thickness from the thinnest portion to the thickest with both having eight different grades. Add to that the different cuts and proportions and you get a near infinite number of combinations that create value. Yet gemologists have succeeded in mostly commoditizing them. Value is not very subjective.

    Diamonds are cut and shaped by man to be as consistent as possible. Pearls are formed by mollusks who could care less and formed by a lot of different species and sub-species of mollusks, some of which create the "same" pearl.

    Try doing that math.

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    commoditize = churn them out all the same or at least carefully classified according to a checklist of criteria which is duplicable anywhere in the world?

    Diamonds are objective while pearls are subjective?

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    No, yes and yes.

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    Badly expressed - what I meant by the first point was that diamonds described as x will all be x, a bit like a packet of biscuits rather than hand baked biscuits which will all be biscuits but different....That's probably not helping clarify.....[gives up]

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    Thank you all for your input and discussion. I thought I would be safe inside the walls of the AGTA show but perhaps not. I guess I will need to trust my own eyes to a greater extent. Now I have a more complex mission!

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