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Old 11-01-2007, 12:30 AM
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A couple of days ago I bought two temporary strands of gorgeous pearls. The photos were sent to me by the vendor, and were done in a scanner. She says the colour is pretty accurate. I'll take proper pics when they arrive.
I was told they were Baroque South Sea Tail Pearls. "THESE ARE SALWATER PEARLS. VERY NICE NATURAL COLOR WITH BEAUTIFUL LUSTRE. THE PEARLS ARE APPROX 11 TO 12MM WIDE AND FROM 17 TO 24MM." She also said they were inventory in her grandfathers shop, which is now closed. And described their colour as natural... creamy white with some pale yellow overtones.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:37 AM
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:41 AM
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They are nucleated freshwaters. Between a blob and a fireball. You can plainly see the nucleus. The nucleus is from the Big Clam(Tridacna gigas). Must be. If it is, then you should not buy these. This clam is endangered. Usage is very improper at this time even though China did not sign a CITES agreement on this. Again, it's very improper to buy this!!

"The giant clam is the world’s largest bivalve mollusk. It can weigh as much as 500 pounds, and has a porcelaneous interior. While its size and shell color are ideal for nucleus production, the giant clam is a threatened species. Importing the giant clam or its derivatives is illegal in the US and other countries that are signatories to CITES, an international treaty intended to protect endangered and threatened species. China is not a signatory."

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Old 11-01-2007, 12:45 AM
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Clearly, they are gorgeous, but can you be sure they are marine? They could be bead-nuked freshwaters. Is the seller willing to guarantee they are saltwater? The problem comes when you go to sell them yourself.

Great picture for a scanner -- thanks for sharing it.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:46 AM
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Although, I'm not an expert, they look like freshwater "Fireballs".

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Old 11-01-2007, 12:47 AM
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Yeah, I missed the second photo while I was posting. Those colors are freshwater.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:50 AM
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The problem comes when you go to sell them yourself.
What a pity, I guess I'll have to keep them BOTH!!! heh heh
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:32 AM
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I was told they were Baroque South Sea Tail Pearls. "THESE ARE SALWATER PEARLS. VERY NICE NATURAL COLOR WITH BEAUTIFUL LUSTRE. THE PEARLS ARE APPROX 11 TO 12MM WIDE AND FROM 17 TO 24MM." She also said they were inventory in her grandfathers shop, which is now closed. And described their colour as natural... creamy white with some pale yellow overtones.
Baroque South Sea Tail Pearls... that is pretty funny. You should check out some other scammer's "suspended planting" pearls. They probably share pearl tales.

Sounds like the seller is feeding you a line. Those are bead-nuked freshwater and cannot be more than a couple years old. The technology is less than a decade old.
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What a pity, I guess I'll have to keep them BOTH!!! heh heh

Maybe you should take a look at the INCU's Red List first. I don't know why you would want pearls that are nucleated with Tridacna gigas.

http://www.iucnredlist.org/search/details.php/22137/all

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I guess I am in on the "tail" of this one, but they look like nucleated freshwater pearls, which typically develop a tail like that. No south sea pearl does that. Ever.

There is an excellent article about it here on this site.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:42 AM
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Or she was guessing. Maybe her grandpa is ga ga ,or whatever.
I bought them simply because I thought they were beautiful.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:48 AM
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Where is an article for Kathybear to look at about using Tridacna gigas nucleii? In fireballs?

If they are tridacna gigas nucleii, I would hope that no one who knows what they are, would support it with their dollars.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:05 AM
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Illegal Use of Giant Clam Nuclei
I found this, but still don't know how to tell if the ones in the photo have giant clam nucleii
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Your pearls may not have the giant clam nuclei, but mine do! You didn't know when you bought them, and neither did I.

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Old 11-01-2007, 02:50 AM
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Well nice to know you didn't flush them down the toilet.
If I saw those somewhere and didn't know what they were I'd have bought them too.
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