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Old 07-21-2008, 09:07 PM
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That necklace went up for sale recently. I think we have a full picture of it on this site--somewhere maybe here LINK

It did not sell- maybe because the setting is weird- I think that setting is newer.

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Old 07-21-2008, 09:19 PM
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33 natural pearls
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Following the pearl. What a ride!

If it is "Gemologist", shouldn't it also be "Pearlologist"?


Avatar is a Sea of Cortez mabe pearl earring-

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Old 07-21-2008, 10:03 PM
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I can't say that they are, but the pearls seem a little silver gray in color, would love to see this piece in person for sure!
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:26 AM
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Yes 33 pearls, count by yourself !!

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I would love to see this piece in person for sure!
I took this photo out of the Christie's sale catalogue I got.

See another beautiful picture in mentioned thread :
Marie Antoinette's pearls up for auction


the pearls are truly fantastic, in the thread mentioned by Caitlin, there is a discussion about where pearls are from.
Truly some have same orient than Sea of Cortez pearls, the not perfectly matched colors give a great interest to the piece in my opinnion.
The way the button pearls are set around the red ruby line, while the drop shaped pearls are hangeg from a zigzag diamonds line, I really love it
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:53 AM
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Good bye XVIII century, there is time for a change, politic and industrial revolution,
Romantic period ...
I have collected few photos to show but here is one interesting piece to watch at.

So today's questions are :
-beside pearls which material were used for this necklace ?
-how old and where does this piece belong to?
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:43 AM
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Do you see it better there ?
Or don't you like the romantic period?
Be patient for seeing the art nouveau, art deco periods, tihs is the gate to

So today's questions are :
-beside pearls which materials were used for this necklace ?
-how old and where does this piece belong to?
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:40 PM
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This is my first time, but I love this thread. I'm going to say 18k gold, silver, onyx and pearls of course, late Victorian (1880ish) and France. This reminds me of a wine tasting!
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:21 PM
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Let me know your opinion : would you wear it today ?
In pearls shown in this thread page 2, you said you would ! and it was 2500 years old !

This brings the question of modernity : I think modernity has nothing to do with period it is referring to, but just the way 2 periods meet at a specific moment.
I was teached that when a certain etruscan statue was discovered at beginning of XIX century, she was called "the parisian" because she was dressed exactly like parisians were at that very moment.

Another story (I like story telling )
Coco Chanel and Fulco di Verdura, a famous Sicilian designer went for a great tour to Europe museums to find inspiration from, in order to create / re-create designs for Chanel jewelry collections. Fulco di Verdura was found of big Byzantin patterns.

what is your opinion about modernity concept in jewelry?

thanks for sharing this adventure of pearls story with me

(not finished yet )

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Old 07-23-2008, 10:18 PM
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My that is a beautiful piece! Somehow it looks a little Italian to me--maybe it is the shape of the stations. Not sure the dark material is onyx, but maybe enamel? The whole thing looks weighty! Would need a tiny neck and some major decolette to do it justice! I'll let someone else model---Elisa, where are you?????
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:45 PM
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Do you see it better there ?
Or don't you like the romantic period?
Be patient for seeing the art nouveau, art deco periods, tihs is the gate to

So today's questions are :
-beside pearls which materials were used for this necklace ?
-how old and where does this piece belong to?
Her is my wild out here guess... ...
looks to be either enamel, jet or onyx, me thinks enamel though and gold, it looks possibly dated victorian maybe they had a knack for replicating their fanciful Version of stuff.


Ni I woudl nto wear it ti looks too manly and not girly (sillly to say but that is me... Silly)

looking forward to the answer..
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:59 PM
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So you said:

...looks to be either enamel, jet or onyx, me thinks enamel though and gold, it looks possibly dated victorian maybe they had a knack for replicating their fanciful Version of stuff...

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...it looks a little Italian to me--maybe it is the shape of the stations. Not sure the dark material is onyx, but maybe enamel? The whole thing looks weighty...

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Congratulations ! :
Made of gold, silver, rosecut diamonds , pearls and... black enamel.
French designer Simon Petiteau, jeweler Pierre Caillot, made 1825-1838
composed of necklace, pendant, brooch, earrings.

that's what Cailtin teaches us about this century :

During the 19th century all known sources of pearls were harvested relentlessly by collectors and traders.

By the time photographs of royals and their friends became a popular way to display wealth, the entire European population of lords and ladies was awash with pearls, not just the queen and her direct kin. Maybe it was just for the sake of the photograph to wear all one's pearls at once, but it showed that these pearls are so numerous that some of them must have been acquired over centuries, been well cared for, and passed down from generation to generation, though many may have been recent purchases.

The end of the 19th century was also the end of the ancient pearl trade. There would be few if any more natural pearls as the world had always known them.


to be continued
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:02 PM
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Next play is : Who wore these earrings
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:52 AM
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So I see, you miss the matched tiara for identification
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:05 PM
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This tiara is from the French Crown jewels, was auctioned along with the other crown jewels in 1887 and was bought by a german jeweller who in his turn sold it to the family of the Thurn and Taxis. It has been sold a century later to the Association des Amis du Musée du Louvre. Empress Eugénie used to wear it. Winterhalter did a lovely painting where she can be seen wearing this beautiful diadem.
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:20 PM
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I'm totally impressed. Are you really into history? Or is this a painting you are very familiar with, if you don't mind me asking.
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