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Old 10-16-2007, 11:21 PM
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What am I missing?
Jeremy's picture of them.

I should have said, "others did and others will".

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Old 10-16-2007, 11:24 PM
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I have a quick question on the pearl. You mentioned "gem" several times in the reasoning of one in 120,000. I am not certain what you mean by "gem". Conch pearls are typically valued on their size, color, shape, and flame. Surface inclusions are present in some conch, but for the most part they are smooth as glass.

Did you talk to any conch or natural pearl dealers in the diamond district?

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I have a quick question on the pearl. You mentioned "gem" several times in the reasoning of one in 120,000. I am not certain what you mean by "gem". Conch pearls are typically valued on their size, color, shape, and flame. Surface inclusions are present in some conch, but for the most part they are smooth as glass.

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I was told by a Gemologist it was GEM quality. I'm not an expert by no means, but i have done some research on this. Not many of these have been found in Colder Atlantic waters.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:54 PM
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We just discussed a gemologist on another thread today regarding a rare pearl.
http://www.pearl-guide.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1899

Unforunately it takes a very, very special kind of gemologist with very specific experience to grade an exotic natural. A poll would never work to determine an actual percentage but 1 in a 100 would be overly generous.

What you need to do is sit down with a natural pearl expert, someone with experience in the exotics. There are a few in New York.

The reason for my interest in the word "gem" in your previous post was because it did not really make sense. What is a "gem" whelk pearl? It is not a description one would expect to accompany a natural conch or any other natural calcareous concretion. It would lead me to assume that the individual who graded it did not really have experience or knowledge to do so. Value is so heavily placed on the value of the flame, yet who can determine what constitutes "gem" flame? You need to have someone who really knows flame and can compare it to other pieces.

Below are some examples of intense flame. You can see it under the surface. It moves as the pearls are rotated.

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Two end pearls are pink and the two center pearls are pink/orange

Since we just discussed quahogs on another thread and you just sold one, I just had to include these two trifectas.

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We just discussed a gemologist on another thread today regarding a rare pearl.
http://www.pearl-guide.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1899

Unforunately it takes a very, very special kind of gemologist with very specific experience to grade an exotic natural. A poll would never work to determine an actual percentage but 1 in a 100 would be overly generous.

What you need to do is sit down with a natural pearl expert, someone with experience in the exotics. There are a few in New York.

The reason for my interest in the word "gem" in your previous post was because it did not really make sense. What is a "gem" whelk pearl? It is not a description one would expect to accompany a natural conch or any other natural calcareous concretion. It would lead me to assume that the individual who graded it did not really have experience or knowledge to do so. Value is so heavily placed on the value of the flame, yet who can determine what constitutes "gem" flame? You need to have someone who really knows flame and can compare it to other pieces.

Below are some examples of intense flame. You can see it under the surface. It moves as the pearls are rotated.

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Two end pearls are pink and the two center pearls are pink/orange



Since we just discussed quahogs on another thread and you just sold one, I just had to include these two trifectas.

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"And who are the experts ? I wandered all over NY looking for them, but nobody seemed to know anything. I worked in a Pawn Shop for 8 yrs, so i know about diamonds and gold but not this. What did Brad Pitt pay for the Pearl he bought Jennifer? And where was it appraised ?"
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:16 AM
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There are a lot of old-school dealers in New York. I know most of them specialize in cultured, of course, but most should be able to either appraise an exotic or know who can appraise an exotic locally.

Try contacting the CPAA (http://www.cpaa.org/). Also check their member list for New York dealers (http://www.cpaa.org/memberslinks.asp).

I do not deal with any of the New York dealers personally. I am sure someone here (on the forum) probably has a few names for you as well.
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It would be great if any of you knew someone i could contact about this Pearl. Your help would be greatly appreciated. And Thank You JShepard !
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:31 PM
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Here are a couple of pictures i just took of this beauty !
Notice the Cat's Eye Affect, No, It's not a crack...It's a Knockout !
Tell me what you think ?








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Old 10-18-2007, 03:51 PM
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Good photos, PFCharles,

Thanks, it is interesting to see all the colors in it up close and personal.

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Old 10-18-2007, 03:55 PM
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[quote=pattye]Good photos, PFCharles,

Thank you Pattye !

The Exacting color is the photo of my fingers holding it. I also have a Oyster pearl that is very tiny i recently got from the water. It is a natural. I'm trying to get the hang of this picture thingy...i'm new, can ya tell !

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Old 10-18-2007, 07:10 PM
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Thanks for the photo of the shell. I love the shell and it looks like the pearl has picked up the best of the shell color.

I have heard that conch pearls fade in the sun, so this one may also. I'd be careful with it.

That color is very fashionable nowadays. I hope I get to see the jewelry it gets set in........
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The pearl appears to have a beautiful, rich color! If you are looking to sell it, I do know of a gentlemen who collects them. PM me and I will give you his details.
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"PM me and I will give you his details"

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Old 10-19-2007, 03:16 AM
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Yup ! It's me again, PearlFinder.....Tonight was something special too ! I came in with 1 Oyster for my girl ( while i was getting some Whelk ( Conch ) for dinner. She shucked that one oyster and low and behold another Natural Pearl...It isn't huge but it is another ! I'd say it measures maybe .65mm Maybe ? It looks like a miniature Snowball !....lol...The Pictures are on the way.....


This is the Oyster Pearl ( Tiny )


This is The Oyster & Pearl, Conch & Pearl


This is Oyster and Conch, Can you spot the Pearls ?

God must have a plan for me !

( A Great Thing )
The kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine Pearls; on finding one Pearl of great value, he went and sold all that he had and bought that one Pearl." (Mt. 13:44-46)

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