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Old 07-08-2007, 02:59 PM
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I've done antique jewelry for awhile and came across a strand of antique pearls circa 1910. The seller lists them as A quality with some surface blemishes, 2.5mm-6.5mm, cream to silver in color and baroque to off-round in shape. Overtones are aubergine, pink and green. Clasp is sliver over 14Kt gold set with 3 pearls and 24 indian face cut diamonds and signed "Ryrie". Strand is 20 inches long with 107 pearls. Comes with a cert that they are natural from a "gemalogical (sp?) institute". Price is $650.

I've never bought natural pearls and am unsure if that is a good price. I'd appreciate some advice. I would post pictures, to see if the opinion was that they are really natural but the site has theirs locked to keep them from being stolen.

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Old 07-08-2007, 03:17 PM
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I am puzzled about the description: what color are the pearls (white with violet overtone sounds unusual) ? And the description of the shape does not relate to a precise image.

At least, what gemological laboratory is that?

20 inch strand of natural pearls in that size could be way more. But again, everything comes down to what those pearls look like.

Probably someone more knowledgeable (i.e. lots of people!) could deduce what this is all about from description alone. I cannot.

If you do have a reserve on the pearls... maybe a link to the seller's site would not hurt any of the parties concerned ?

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Old 07-08-2007, 03:34 PM
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Welcome Aerinha: If the pic won't come to us, post the link and we will go to the pic! Have pearls will travel!
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Old 07-08-2007, 03:41 PM
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Ok, I found a print screen works to save the pictures into word and get around the lock, but it's too big a file to attach. I don't have a hold, beyond asking about lay a way, so I can't post a link. Let me keep fiddling and see what I get.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:02 PM
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I emailed and private messaged you both a link. The Word file was just too large no matter what I did. Thanks for your help.

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Old 07-08-2007, 05:35 PM
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These pics are not making life easy. I cropped them, but it cut some stuff out. Here are some of the larger pearls shown as pearl 2. Clasps is 2/3 of the clasp and the smallest, least round pearls.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:36 PM
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HI Aerinha
Please send me a PM with the link too.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:43 PM
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Caitlin I jsut tried to PM you, but it said you exceeded your quota and have to clear space to receive any more.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:44 PM
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If they are from 1910, they would have to be natural. From the few pearls I could see they do look natural. I would pay $650 because it isn't a bad price at all. Better than a lot of Mikimotos that length with a certificate go for.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:49 PM
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I cleaned out my PM box. And I got the link.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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This time the PM seemed to work so, Caitlin, the link is waiting for you. I did ask the seller for a hold until I get a group opinion. I like them, but I don't want to make a mistake and buy "junk" pearls or early cultured pearls.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:54 PM
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I think the price is because they are "A" quality pearls. All the better in my opinon. They are very dirty and need to be restrung!

I think they are great.

They are gulf pearls, like mine. Mine also have the same colors playing on the surface as described in the blurb. Don't know if it is orient or overtone, but it sure is iridescent.
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Old 07-08-2007, 05:58 PM
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Seller is willing to have the restrung as they looked loose in the pics. As for the pearls, do you think they need to be cleaned? If so, how? I once heard this totally gross quote on a news story about stores selling miki's w/o a license claiming they were new and the reporter insisted they had to be second hand. They then said wearing someone else's pearls was like wearing someone else's underwear since they absorb oils. That was another factor making me hesitate slightly. I have issues using a purse if I don't know where it went before it got to me, but then I have no issues with my other antique jewelry pieces, but they are metal and don't absorb. Weird, I know.

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They then said wearing someone else's pearls was like wearing someone else's underwear since they absorb oils. .

Yuck! No way... Silly! NOPE! Never say that again! Please...
Can't imagine why would anyone say that if it wasn't to make someone buy new pearl by scaring them away from the old, with no matter what disgusting piece of BS.

If the shop restrings them for you, they should clean the pearls before, I would imagine. So that the silk does not have to get wet.

There is a thread about cleaning natural pearls (Caitlin's). THIS ONE, I think.
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:51 AM
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Yup, that silk thread is full of gunk and old dna flakes.....

The pearls can get a dirty build up, but oils won't penetrate the pearls, they just coat them.

Perhaps you can just take posession of them and have them restrung yourself. You don't want them cleaned in a sonic cleaner, for instance.

Those pearls look very old,they are at least 100 years old and some of them seem to be worn on the ends making them a bit barrel shaped. You'd need to look at the end closer to really tell, though. They may be much older than 100 years and just got restrung with a new clasp in 1910. I also saw a slight pealing part on one pearl (very very, thin, thin, but it looks just like the way my Bahraini pearls peal). But right underneath the pealing part is more bright nacre.

I'd rinse those in non-clorinated water. If any of the holes are clogged up and blackened, it would be time for a short sloosh in a thick salt slurry. Then several rinses in the chlorine-free water.

They don't look greasy to me, but if they are, a quick sloosh with some very mild natural castile soapy water. then rinse.

They actually look a little dry, like they would love a nice neck to adorn.
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