[effisk]

Originally Posted by marikita

Has anyone found the contact details of 'Coral Sea Pearls'? I tried in the white pages, and came up with something that sounded like it could be them, but I'm not entirely sure, and wanted to see if anyone had a better source?

DAVE WILLIAMS, CORAL SEA PEARLS - HERVEY BAY
0405 169 308

[marikita]

Originally Posted by effisk

DAVE WILLIAMS, CORAL SEA PEARLS - HERVEY BAY
0405 169 308

Gosh you're good, Effisk.

I've been searching for it for a while now. Where did you find that?!

Do you know if they have other contact details or a website or something? I was hoping to do a little more research before contacting them.

Thank you so much!

Marikita

[effisk]

Hi Marikita

Originally Posted by marikita

I've been searching for it for a while now. Where did you find that?!

It was in one of the links I gave earlier in this thread.

Originally Posted by marikita

Do you know if they have other contact details or a website or something? I was hoping to do a little more research before contacting them.

I mainly do my research on the internet, and there isn't much information about CSP online. I don't know much more about them than what's on this discussion here.

I'm preparing a series of "email interviews" of several players of the industry for my news website, Pêcheur de Perles. I started with PSP which I thought was an interesting subject. Given the results, I think "cross interviews" with various points of view would be appropriate. If you happen to call Mr Williams, please ask him if he has an email address. I would love to get in touch with him.

[steve oconnor]

Originally Posted by PearlsOfJoy.com

We just got a very interesting email from a former employee of the company. I can't verify any of the information provided but it is very interesting none the less:

Enclosed is a press release about public acceptance of the japanese pearl farm so from what Damien said about devils giving the company opposition there must alot living in Port Stephens.

Residents take shine off pearl farm plan
Port Stephens residents have voted overwhelmingly to reject a new proposal for a multi-million dollar pearl farm off the New South Wales central coast.

Port Stephens Pearls, a subsidiary of Australian Radiata, which had a larger proposal rejected in 2002, has submitted a development application for a 30 hectare farm.

More than 500 people turned out for yesterday's meeting, which was called by local environment group Port Watch.

Bob Westbury from Port Stephens Tourism says while both sides of the proposal were presented at yesterday's meeting, more than 480 people voted against it.

"By next Friday... it is the end of the submission period...we had to have this meeting this weekend so we could get people to do their submissions and see what the community feeling was - anyway we wanted to give it a democratic opportunity," he said.

"We allowed the chief executive officer of Port Stephens Pearls to speak for 10 minutes and justice has been portrayed to the Minister and I believe he will make a decision in the right direction and give no consent."

The system the japs use for growout is not the normal longline system but is about 4 times more expensive to operate as normal surface lines.
The panels and equipment is suspended 4 metres below the surface to stop any visual pollution with floats for the residents who look out at the farm site. The fouling is bad and alot of mud, silt loading so finding lines is difficult and a large grapple is used to find the submerged line and then is lifted up onto the cleaning boat. When I worked for the company we could not clean for 5 months due to issues visual with cleaning and leaving a big sediment slick and all the shell ended up sitting on the bottom. I dont know what this Damien is selling or does but all equipment is brought in from Japan.
Dont have to much information on the fellow in Queensland but sounds like big shell so better than PSP. As I said the japs want out and loss of face is a big thing in japan so they will keep going until someone is silly enough to buy or they will run out of money, the japanese investors say they have spent 7 million dollars on investment and still no return, growing small akoya in competition with China the future is bleak for them.

[Kevin Canning]

Thanks for jumping in Steve, very interesting!

As someone that grew up in the pacific northwest I know the battle that goes on between aquaculture, the public and special interest groups - rarely is the full truth told by either side.

[purepearls]

When you're dealing with anything political like this, no matter what it is, you can bet that the information you've received has another side to that story! Often, neither side is quite on target with what is really happening.

[Kevin Canning]

the difference being that Steve is neither an employee of the company or part of the opposition.

[purepearls]

I wasn't talking about Steve's comments. I was talking about the quote:

I know the battle that goes on between aquaculture, the public and special interest groups - rarely is the full truth told by either side.

and more specifically special interest groups versus aquaculture.

[Damian]

Hi

I've just joined this forum after contact by Jeremy. To help clarify the taxonomy issue on Pinctada imbricata (formerly known in Australia as P. radiata) which our company is culturing, I offer the following:
"Samples of Akoya have been collected as far south as Mallacoota in Victoria and the species distribution extends throughout NSW and around our northern coastline to Shark Bay in Western Australia (O’Connor et al., 2003). Specimens of the Pinctada imbricata complex from three Australian east coast sites (tip of Cape York; Cairns; Moreton Bay and Long reef, NSW) have been subjected to genetic analysis (allozyme electrophoresis) and the results compared with those for P. imbricata in Japan. These comparisons identified the presence of two pearl oyster species in NSW, one of which, P. imbricata, was confirmed to be conspecific with the species cultured in Japan (Colgan and Ponder, 2002)."

The work was done by the Australian Museum, commissioned by our company during the 1990's.

Damian

[Damian]

Steve O'Connor was dismissed from our company in 2002. We strongly reject the derogatory and misleading statements made below by Steve. We are now seeking legal advice regarding the comments he has made in this forum.

Damian

[Damian]

I won’t get into a debate about the ‘P. imbricate complex’ as I referred to it, because I am not a taxonomist. I do note some recent molecular identification methods (viz. Masaoka and Kobayashi, 2005) have suggested speciation but I will leave that to others to puzzle. Suffice to say that the Australian species we culture is also found in Japan and ‘Akoya’ is a Japanese word hence we refer to our product as Akoya pearl. I’m not sure what you call an Atlantic pearl? I am aware that Pinctada is not a true oyster (Ostreidae family) but a member of the Pteriidae family which may be more akin to mussel (due to its byssus) than scallop. But the vernacular is pearl oyster.

In relation to the nacre growth we achieve, all I can say is that ‘down under’ we grow them bigger and faster on the sites we have and we plan to get on the world Akoya pearl scene ASAP now that we have approvals in place. This is not an advertisement!

Regards

Damian

[Valeria101]

Originally Posted by Damian

... we plan to get on the world Akoya pearl scene ASAP now that we have approvals in place. This is not an advertisement!

Quick question... I hope it is appropriate.

Obviously, the thick nacre in the picture peaked my attention as many other's. And so did the colors! Clearly, it is not fair game to imply much from a small picture of a pile of pearls, but there seem to be some intriguing colors on the line, including some light bluish-gray. Are they going to be on the market in natural colors? And if so, what is out there?

Many thanks!

Ana


PS. Sad that every great pearl has to be called 'Akoya' and every shell is an 'Oyster'. At least not here... You did mention 'Pacific pearls' and that feels delightfully exotic, and straight righteous in the context.

[Richard W. Wise]

Zeide,
You mention the "rhodium vapor bling"! Do you have any real evidence that vapor disposition is being used commercially?

[Zeide Erskine]

Hi Richard,

You mean other than being able to polish it off with a sunshine cloth? It is not exactly an industry secret and you find discussion of it in the Strack book, too, under pearl treatments.

Zeide

[Richard W. Wise]

Zeide,

Got the Strack book. Really is the best thing out there as you said. On page 661 under Other Coatings I found a brief reference. Sounds like the coating is not particularly durable. Guess I was under the impression that this was some sort of subtle undetectable way to pump up the orient.

Had not read about it anywhere in the literature but perhaps it has simply been in various journals under the the general term coatings without any specific reference to the cause or type.

Any specific detection method other than wear that you know of? I suspect it does not produce air bubbles?